This works fairly naturally in a game like D&D, which has an extraordinarily steep power curve. A party of tenth level characters can take on large numbers of monsters that are quite dangerous when they first set out.
In other game systems, though, power levels aren't nearly as steep. In games like Warhammer FRP, Burning Wheel, or E6 (and I hear RuneQuest), characters don't ever get so powerful that they can laugh at mundane threats like they can in D&D.
In games like this, what are some ways to pull off escalating difficulty?
In Dungeon World, and its stripped-down cousin World of Dungeons, there's almost no quantification of monster power level at all. These games aren't about flat power curves, necessarily, (they just don't make statements about power) but the effect is the same. What are some non-mechanical ways to tweak the danger level?
Ben tells an anecdote about his players fleeing from goblins for days, ultimately having to run so far they fled into a vermin-filled swamp. He also talks about the barrow wights in the otherwise pleasant Wil Wood - dangerous, but easily avoided, and in fact not that easy to find.
These got me thinking about non-mechanical difficulty levels for monstrous threats in general.
The lens I'm looking at this subject through is stocking a west marches-type wilderness map, so I'm thinking of this in terms of concentrations of monsters - factions, settlements, lairs, and so on. It could be a single owlbear, or an entire subsurface city of Derro.
Here's what I've got so far.
Controlling the Degree of Danger
This is the general principle - how much control do players have over the degree of danger? Can they get a taste and pull back, or does moving forward risk pulling down more than they bargained for?Speed
It's easy to get away from Slow monsters. Maybe they're just slow all the time, maybe they're fast in short spurts but can't match the adventurers for endurance (like cheetahs). Maybe they just suck in the terrain the encounter occurs in. In any case, the players can control difficulty by just walking away.It's much harder to escape from Fast monsters. Maybe they have a terrain advantage, maybe they know shortcuts. Maybe they have mounts, or long legs. But as long as they can find you, they control the distance.
Cohesion
Unorganized monsters can be dealt with piecemeal - maybe they communicate poorly, maybe they hate each other. Angering one won't necessarily mean angering the others, and even if it does, they're not organized enough to do anything about it.
Factional monster concentrations are broken into smaller groups that don't quite get along. They have great communication within the smaller groups, but organizing beyond that is fraught. Pissing off one faction probably won't prompt an immediate reaction from the others, could actually win friends.
Cohesive groups have set internal conflicts aside, and are willing to pull together for the common good, sometimes rapidly.
Militaristic groups are not only willing to work together, they've drilled for it. Sometimes they're praying for it. Their response to external threats will be quick and decisive.
Gestalts are extremely dangerous - they are so cohesive that the entire community can respond as a single organism.
Territoriality
Defensive creatures just want to be left alone - they might even avoid the party if they can. If cornered or attacked, they might react violently, but the motive is to intimidate intruders to drive them away.
To Territorial monsters, on the other hand, just being around is a threat. Moose might not want to eat you, but they'll pursue you until you wish you'd never set eyes on them.
Vengeful monsters don't just want you gone, they want you to remember them. Maybe they send bounty hunters, trackers, rangers or wargs after you. Predatory monsters are similar.
Proactive monsters aren't waiting to stumble into you, they're on the lookout for threats before they develop, and will act to neutralize them before they get out of hand. They know what you people from the lowlands are all about, and they're not having any of it. If they get the drop on you, they'll mess you up just to send a warning.
Perceptiveness
The quickened trees of Grilwood might be organized, vengeful, but are so Oblivious that unless you smell like orc or try to cut one down, they probably won't even know you're there.
Inattentive monsters aren't expecting to meet anyone, while Alert ones do from time to time.
A Vigilant threat, on the other hand, may have scouts, spies, keen senses, or magical scrying.
Range
The Sarlacc and Blood Willow are nasty, but controlling your exposure to them is relatively easy because they're Stationary. Territorial monsters might be bad, but they're not so bad if their territory is only the graveyard you were digging in. Some are Site-Bound and don't leave the site where they are found, others will venture in the Local area, and some will have a wider Territory. Still other threats will have a Regional reach, able to come and get you long after you thought you were safely back in town.
Numbers
Singular or threats can be dealt with decisively (whether by evasion, bribery, negotiation, or violence) in a single encounter. Numerous creatures are not so easily dealt with, and Hordes are impossible to stop with anything less than an army, or cataclysmic magic.
Obscurity
How well does the party understand what they're dealing with? Do they know the lay of the land, the nature and disposition of the threats? Are their weaknesses, strengths, and motives understood? If the threats are Understood, the party is at least aware of how much trouble they are likely to bring down on themselves. If the threat is Unknown, the party may not realize it's in danger at all.I'll talk a lot more about this in another blog post.
Other Qualities of Disposition
These factors have a more complex effect on threat level.
Inaccessible sites are those with obstructed approaches - defenses, narrow defiles or bottlenecks, town walls or ruined fortifications, difficult ascents or caverns, or a long trip across the desert. These barriers may confine the danger making the surrounding area safer, but once the obstacles are crossed, retreat can be difficult.
If a threat is Hidden, this takes control out of the players' hands, and multiplies the effects of the threat's territoriality. Hidden/Predatory threats are a big problem, while Hidden/Defensive sites may never be found at all.
Sealed threats are somehow confined, imprisoned, or penned in. Perhaps a cave-in has trapped underground dwellers, a barricade is preventing the crypt ghouls from flowing into the rest of the dungeon, or demons are trapped behind a door of black granite. These barriers offer parties at least an opportunity for control - don't break the seal, and you're safe. Once the seal is down, however, it's usually hard to put back.
In some cases, only experienced parties can break the seals, which is a useful way of shaping the danger level.
Overall Threat Level
These individual factors all combine to produce an overall threat level. Fast, Militaristic and Predatory makes for a much greater threat than just one or two of those factors.
By these standards, it's easy to see why the barrow-wights of the Wil Wood aren't a great danger to parties that wander through the area - they may be Territorial and Unknown, but they are also Unorganized, Inattentive, Hidden, and Site-Bound, giving players a lot of control over the danger they invoke.
The goblins, however, were much more dangerous - Fast, Cohesive, Vengeful, Alert and Numerous.
The Orcs of Tirru-Stryggal from adventure #09 are almost as deadly as they come: Hidden, Regional, Vigilant, Fast, Militaristic, Predatory, Fortified, Unknown, Numerous. This is a threat that will destroy all but the most prepared and capable parties that tangle with them.
The first West Marches campaign I co-ran, we ended up creating a perfect storm in the form of a hobgoblin warlord. While he didn't have the mirror of like Tirru-Stryggal, he had hobgoblin spies and war mages by the dozen. The players spent months just trying to find and push back the Imperial threat and eventually worked out a peace deal. We were careful to avoid another "Zrog Situation" when we started the next campaign. (over at reddit.com/r/west_marches)
ReplyDeleteI'm preparing to run The Raid Mirror, and one thing I learned was to slow the sequence of events way, way down - past what's "realistic" - because players just can't/won't respond fast enough.
That's really great advice, Ben. I agree; unless the players are really invested and already quite powerful, this thing will just roll over them if it happens quickly.
DeleteI made a different mistake in our second WM campaign, when I changed two of the non-mechanical difficulty vectors without giving the players enough signalling and processing time to adjust their expectations. It ended up feeling really unfair and some players quit the campaign, even though - from behind the screen - it all made sense.
DeleteI know it's been years but you missed a type of Range: Nomadic. Yes, you could describe a group solely by by it's reach, but some groups may simply move about, and their reach may change in the moving. In regards to Range I like* to split Stationary from the pack, for me it goes "Site Bound-Local-Territory-Regional", and then "Stationary or Nomadic", with Nomadic receiving further descriptors of Migrational† or Random† and also a brief descriptor of the where's and whys.
ReplyDeleteSo a pair of creature societies from the campaign I'm working up:
Ghobri Centaurs: Fast; Factional; Numerous, hunters 10-15, tribes 50-100; Nomadic/Migrational; Well-Known; other traits are Seasonal traits.
So the Centaurs of the Ghobri plains are always Fast, Factional, and Migrational; their other traits are Seasonal in nature. In the Summer they are a Regional threat, with hunting/foraging bands ranging across the whole of the Ghobri plains, hunters are Alert and Defensive until ired, where upon they become Proactive and Vigilant for the season. In the Spring and Autumn, whole tribes are on the move, while they are Vigilant, hunting packs will Defensively lead groups away from the tribe and rely on speed to disengage once the tribe is safe. While Wintering in the valley Territory of the Apple Latchkey Mtns they become Inattentive (rare to encounter foes in the depths of winter) but Vengeful if roused.
River Kingdom Nerieds: Slow; Gestalt; Vengeful; Oblivious; Site Bound; Numerous but Small Groups 1-3; Semi-Obscure; Nomadic/Random.
The Nereids of the River Kingdoms are Slow out of the water, but beyond Fast within it. They will /rarely/ chase a foe beyond their immediate Site (the water, be it river, lake, pond, stream, or really deep puddle). Dealing with one, is dealing with them all, so if you anger one, watch your step around any water deep enough to drown in. Most have a specific site they will bind themselves to, becoming the 'protector' of that waterway, sometimes acting like a spirit or 'god' of the water and weather locally, but most flit and play in any water they chose as the whim moves them.
For the Centaurs, Nomadic represents they have three areas they can be found in depending on the season; while the Nereids can be Randomly encountered (low chance except for specific locations) at any body of water that's basically hip deep or deeper (less deep if the Nereids are angered over something and out for revenge).
.* I say this as though I've been using your system for longer than the last 15 minutes... I have, my system, which is not at all as well organized, I'd jot down descriptive traits, 5-10... but I'm totes stealing your system, it's very well designed indeed.
"I'll talk a lot more about this in another blog post."
Did you ever discuss this in more detail? I've been through all your posts back to this point and I don't remember seeing it... or was that the "Making Knowledge Valuable" and the "PC Knowledge and Bandwidth Porblems" posts in Oct 2015?
> Did you ever discuss this in more detail?
ReplyDeleteI don't believe I ever did! Life has a way of interrupting plans.
Well, I for one will be happy to read if you decide to get those thoughts back together and down onto the digital paper...
DeleteThis is a great post, Michael. Lots of valuable "advice" here in this rubric! Really lovely.
ReplyDeleteThe other side of having allies that are Hidden, Sealed or otherwise Unorganised, is that they won't overshadow the player characters as much.
ReplyDeleteThat's a great point, yes! I suppose you could still bring in Proactive, Regional, Militaristic allies, but at that point they'd be quest givers rather than folks running in to do the dirty work for you. Chris Chinn has a really fantastic article called Seven Types of Antagonists, which has a few fun ways for allies to cause trouble for the party, archetypes like the Hater, the Crazy Friend, and the Idealist. Those might be useful inspiration here as well.
Deletehttps://bankuei.wordpress.com/2011/03/26/7-antagonists/